On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society 
The following is a way too long review and/or polemic. Ill give my reason for it at the end. There are several things the author of this book seems to be unaware of but which bother me when people ignore them.1. Lack of proof is not proof to the contrary.2. Correlation is not causality.3. Do not assume what you are trying to prove.4. Logical fallacies like appeals to authority, straw man argument, etc..The author relies heavily on the work by S.L.A. Marshall. People like John Whiteclay Chambers
I had originally planned to review this book right once I finished it. Then I planned to write my review on Memorial Day. And I still don't feel like things are settled enough in my mind to properly write this review, but I need to do it sometime so here goes.I picked this book up on a whim. I rarely, -RARELY- read anything to do with war. When I do, it's a story with a war in it. I've never read anything about war itself. This might sound strange, but being a woman, I've had the incredible

An important, fascinating, sometimes disturbing book on the psychology behind killing, specifically in wartime. A fact that restores your faith in the human race: most people, when ordered to kill their fellow human beings on the front lines of war, will simply choose not to do so. 80-85% become "non-shooters". Even when forced to shoot, they will intentionally miss rather than shoot at a fellow human.The military since Vietnam has used psychological conditioning to overcome this innate
On Killing opens on a fascinating and provocative note. While it's common to speak of killing as a reversion to barbaric instinct, the author presents evidence to suggest just the opposite may be true. In fact most people have to overcome enormous instinctual resistance to become killers. Grossman cites a truly eye-opening statistic: in World War II only 10-15 of all soldiers were willing to fire to kill, even when given a direct order, and even if doing would improve their own chances of
As a combat vet myself, I can't say I learned anything new from this book as I have lived it all myself,. Yet I strongly suggest you all read it carefully.It will enlighten you to a very important aspect of humanity and the survival instinct that few understand. There is a price for killing and there is a very effective "military machine" to teach the acceptance and support of killing that is a thousand years or more old.That mind altering thousand year plus mind forming machine is set against a
Dave Grossmans book, On Killing, is not a light read. Nor is it a particularly enjoyable one. I knew all that going in. So why did I read it? Because although I knew it would not be an enjoyable read, I felt that it was a necessary one. I write thrillers. I write about elite warriors, despite the fact that I have never fired a shot in anger, despite the fact that I have never taken a human life. I dont see this as a deterrent, for I know with certainty that I would not be able to write about it
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Title | : | On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society |
Author | : | Dave Grossman |
Book Format | : | Paperback |
Book Edition | : | Deluxe Edition |
Pages | : | Pages: 367 pages |
Published | : | December 1st 2003 by Back Bay Books (first published 1995) |
Categories | : | Psychology. Nonfiction. War. Military Fiction. History |
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The good news is that most soldiers are loath to kill. But armies have developed sophisticated ways of overcoming this instinctive aversion. And contemporary civilian society, particularly the media, replicates the army's conditioning techniques, and, according to Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's thesis, is responsible for our rising rate of murder among the young. Upon its initial publication, On Killing was hailed as a landmark study of the techniques the military uses to overcome the powerful reluctance to kill, of how killing affects soldiers, and of the societal implications of escalating violence. Now, Grossman has updated this classic work to include information on 21st-century military conflicts, recent trends in crime, suicide bombings, school shootings, and more. The result is a work certain to be relevant and important for decades to come.Mention Books In Favor Of On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society
Original Title: | On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society |
ISBN: | 0316191442 (ISBN13: 9780316191449) |
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This is the first book I've ever logged in Goodreads where I was genuinely upset by the number of 4 & 5 star ratings. I've never cared before if other people liked a book that I didn't, or vice versa. But Jesus Christ folks, really? Really? I waded through some of them and found some good criticisms in 3 star reviews and lower, but if you gave this a 4 or 5 star then you've read 300+ pages without using any critical thinking skills at all. I've probably rated this 1 star instead of 2 as aThe following is a way too long review and/or polemic. Ill give my reason for it at the end. There are several things the author of this book seems to be unaware of but which bother me when people ignore them.1. Lack of proof is not proof to the contrary.2. Correlation is not causality.3. Do not assume what you are trying to prove.4. Logical fallacies like appeals to authority, straw man argument, etc..The author relies heavily on the work by S.L.A. Marshall. People like John Whiteclay Chambers
I had originally planned to review this book right once I finished it. Then I planned to write my review on Memorial Day. And I still don't feel like things are settled enough in my mind to properly write this review, but I need to do it sometime so here goes.I picked this book up on a whim. I rarely, -RARELY- read anything to do with war. When I do, it's a story with a war in it. I've never read anything about war itself. This might sound strange, but being a woman, I've had the incredible

An important, fascinating, sometimes disturbing book on the psychology behind killing, specifically in wartime. A fact that restores your faith in the human race: most people, when ordered to kill their fellow human beings on the front lines of war, will simply choose not to do so. 80-85% become "non-shooters". Even when forced to shoot, they will intentionally miss rather than shoot at a fellow human.The military since Vietnam has used psychological conditioning to overcome this innate
On Killing opens on a fascinating and provocative note. While it's common to speak of killing as a reversion to barbaric instinct, the author presents evidence to suggest just the opposite may be true. In fact most people have to overcome enormous instinctual resistance to become killers. Grossman cites a truly eye-opening statistic: in World War II only 10-15 of all soldiers were willing to fire to kill, even when given a direct order, and even if doing would improve their own chances of
As a combat vet myself, I can't say I learned anything new from this book as I have lived it all myself,. Yet I strongly suggest you all read it carefully.It will enlighten you to a very important aspect of humanity and the survival instinct that few understand. There is a price for killing and there is a very effective "military machine" to teach the acceptance and support of killing that is a thousand years or more old.That mind altering thousand year plus mind forming machine is set against a
Dave Grossmans book, On Killing, is not a light read. Nor is it a particularly enjoyable one. I knew all that going in. So why did I read it? Because although I knew it would not be an enjoyable read, I felt that it was a necessary one. I write thrillers. I write about elite warriors, despite the fact that I have never fired a shot in anger, despite the fact that I have never taken a human life. I dont see this as a deterrent, for I know with certainty that I would not be able to write about it
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